Traffic Snarls In Delhi

Jun 4 2008  | Views 362 |  Comments  (8)
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  Julia Dutta posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Indu,
Thank you. At least one person feels with me. BRT is a solution for the long run. Across India, the problem is the same - we need to wake up! And in that light, I wonder if Ramdev Baba who wants to join Politics is the right answer for india This is a country with Clowns at the top. And greedy gluttons! I wonder how he proposes to clean that up? Or is this the beginning of his yogic hunger
Julia



  Indu3 posted 2 mnths ago

Hi Julia

As soon as I have read first sentence , I thought of Ramdevji Maharaj. He is teaching us how to breath more oxygen , but are our bodies well equipped to filter the oxygen from this polluted air?

I liked the suggestion of having dedicated lane for the buses , it helps to control those accidents of Blue liners.

By the way even in Hyderabad the increase in number of cars is making the traffic a worst place t travel. I thought Hyderabad is more polluted than any other city in India. Basically we do not have the necessary greenery because of rocky place and shortage water.

Indu

 



  Julia Dutta posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Aditi,
The point is that we have to find solutions to the sorry state of affairs. We need less and less people to buy cars, even if they can afford it, so that the environment is saved, people are not dying of lung cancer and asthma as they are due to high road pollution. BRt, may not only serve the purpose of quich mass transport, but also serve the above purpose, of having less cars on the roads, in the long run. If you can provide the people with a good alternative, they will take it in the long run. For a city like Delhi with snob value and wierd show business of being seen in cars only, many of the same people have taken to the Metro after its tremendoes success in Delhi. My concerns are with pollution - however and whichever way I want to crack it. 

I agree with you on certain grounds that BRT has not been a success here this time round and I agree with you about the initial confusion, vis-a-vis signals, crossings, stops, but I think we can't give up on it totally. We must work on it, further. 

As you are aware, despite the Government's lofty promises of taking all deisel busses off the roads, they have done so, only to push SUV manufacturers to push sales in the same period, thereby, getting the air to worse than before CNG state. Most busses, proivately owned Blueline busses, need to be off the roads, even if they have converted to CNG and Delhi Government has not been able to push more of their DTC busses on the roads so far, thereby, allowing auto sales to boom, or pushing people to bring out their cars from their garrages. You see the slip between cup and lip? 

Only if the communication systems become faster for the public, without jams, will more people convert to buses. Hence, for the long run, even though it has failed due to lack of proper planning , I would still vote BRT . 
Thanks for your comment,
Julia



  Julia Dutta posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Mr Sampath,
In the first ever survey conducted over in Bangalore by the CSE-IBNlive-Outlook Survey, people in Bangalore, despite the heavy traffic have asked for more threes than broader roads in Bangalore:

"The survey found that a whopping 86 per cent of the people want the Government to plant trees, followed by reducing air pollution, providing clean drinking water, cleaning up rivers, collecting and segregating garbage and finally improving public transport.

 

Wider Roads or More Trees?

 

Given a choice what would people opt for? Wider roads or for protecting the trees in their city?

 

Fifty-seven per cent of the people of Bangalore who took part in the survey said that they prefer protection of trees, with only a 14 per cent opting for widening of roads by chopping trees.

 

In the past one year alone, 1,500 to 2,000 trees have been chopped and if the road widening plan goes ahead, more than 40,000 trees along a 400 km stretch will have to go.

 

Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike's Tree Officer, Shekhar, has little clarity on the figure.

 

“Roughly more than 700 trees have cut down and we’ve replanted about 70,” says he.

 

Environmental activist, Leo Saldanha calls it a tree genocide. His PIL to stop the road widening project has been accepted by the Karnataka High Court, but Leo knows that's just the start. He feels that Bangalore needs to revamp its road culture to save the trees.

 

"The change has to happen from the government," says he.

http://ibnlive.com/news/trees-vs-roads-what-do-bangaloreans-want/66527-11.html

This proves that broader roads are not what people want. In Delhi the roads may be broader than most other parts of the country, but, this has caused more problems. Today, with the rapid increase of cars, pollution levels have reached the pre-CNG times in Delhi. That is why, albeit, the fact, that the BRT system has not taken off successfully in Delhi, it cannot be overhauled. It is absolutely imparative that more people get on to the bus and not buy more cars. This they will do if the mode of communication was to be better in so far as faster and less stressful. I think BRT serves the purpose in the long run.

Thanks for your comment,
Julia



  Aditi Ray posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Julia, 

I have to respectfully disagree with the blog's advocacy of the BRT for Delhi. BRT is a nightmare, Ms Sunita Narain needs to do a reality check on the roads of Delhi before giving interviews based on BRT experiences in Bogota or Timbuctoo for that matter. Blind aping does not help.  I refuse to be awed, a stinker by any other name remains a stink, it does not become a rose, and BRT stinks....of total mental bankruptcy and ineptitude

India has a left hand drive system, and buses as per rule book are to ply in the left-most lane, next to the pavement, enabling people to alight and get in and go their way, using the pavement and/or thereafter crossing the road at pedestrian crossings. 

What disaster have we done? One,  the BRT stretch is in the middle of the road. So, it is not enough that the pedestrian alights from the bus,  (s)he necessarily has to cross the heavily trafficked road to get to his/her destination. Ditto for catching the bus. Where does that leave safety for schoolchildren? The physically handicapped? 

Second, wishful thinking does not help. Sure, one should improve the public transport system. But, why start with the least  of the problems? Are our buses not patronised enough to the satisfaction of urban planners and activists like Sunita Narain only because traffic movement is slow? What about quality and maintainance of buses? Why is it that many middle class people like us have outgrown the habit of travelling by bus, is it not largely because of  overcrowded buses, and rash driving ( blue line buses)?  The money spent on the BRT could have been spent on upgrading the bus service itself . 

Third, at a point of time, how many buses are the road and how much of other traffic plies? The frequency of buses is one tenth of frequency of other traffic.  While the BRT stretch is absolutety bereft of traffic for long stretches  of time, the other traffic lane assumes the shape of a slow moving serpent. No wonder road rage builds up...it  is all so blatantly unplanned!! Merely calling names to the miffed lady in her car just because she does not take the bus does not improve matters. 

I suppose anybody who does not ride a bus on the BRT corridor will be a persona non grata for the BRT debate, (the mention of the miffed lady suggested that either you are for the BRT,  or you are a non-caring  elite!!) Well, in that case, please ask Ms Narain to at least ask the bus commuters themselves, and only those who are either required to catch a bus or get off from the bus anywhere  within the corridor ,and the pedestrians who need to cross the BRT, and only then speak to the media.

Regards,

Aditi




  DSampath posted 2 mnths ago

dear julia,
if you compare Delh to the other cities , Delhis roads are the broadest and conducive to fast traffic.. imagine other cities...which are undergoing a growth of more than 7. percent and vehicle grawth of more than 12.5 percent...bangalore raod situation is pathetic.it is beyond redemtion.... cheenai is turning out to be difficult.....



  Julia Dutta posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Raghuram,
You must read at the end the interview with Sunita Narain, by Karan Thapar and you will know what is the ideal bus service suggested by Ms Narian. It can be done only if our well meaning politicians and automakers put their head together to do it. In the mean time, BRT cannot be done away with, as it is one solution towards reducing cars in the long run on roads as we hope Metro has done. In fact it has. But BRT is must - I quote again from DTE - 

The city of Bogota, Columbia, is famous for its BRT project. This is one of the first successful BRT models, and the Delhi BRT is based on it. The BRT system in Bogota, TransMilenio, carries over 1,050,000 passengers daily. The first phase of the system became operational in 2000 and is more than 60 km long. TransMilenio is the only public transport system earning carbon credits.

TransMilenio was based on the BRT system in Curitiba, Brazil. Curitiba’s BRT started in the 1960s. Of the 2.7 million people in Curitiba, 1.9 million use BRT. With 70 per cent of commuters using the system Curitiba’s use of the public transport system is the highest of all Brazilian state capitals. As a result, the city’s fuel consumption is 30 per cent lower than in comparable Brazilian cities.

Today the BRT system is being used in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Boston, Sydney, Adelaide, Quito (Ecuador) and Leeds (UK). Several other cities are planning to implement the BRT concept.

In India, BRT projects are to come up in Ahmedabad, Bhopal, Indore, Jaipur, Pune, Rajkot, Visakhapatnam, Vijayawada and Bangalore. Unlike Delhi, most of these projects are being funded by the central government under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission. 

Julia



  kolipakkam posted 2 mnths ago

I live in Delhi and commute more than 50 km every day. I am a vociferous promoter of public transport and I use it maximally, "suffering" inordinate delays (I consider the hardships as the deserved penalty for living in an inconsiderate city) . Yet, I would suggest that BRT should be scrapped. My lament is while even Delhi Metro, with its convenient rides, only marginally expensive, and with access facilitation through feeder bus services do not reduce the public vehicle load on Delhi's roads what use is of such exclusive systems as BRT. The ridership on BRTS with its attendant problems of access to the stops across lanes of reckless driving is never going to relieve the commuting burden to a significant extent, even if the city were to be spider-webbed by BRT. The signalling system adopted for the initial run was pathetic and it is beyond me how it ca be improved.

I have a very hard suggestion. The city should be given a decent publicly owned bus system, no fancy AC and all that, just non-rattling, well-maintained, clean buses that have a notified schedule and the operators follow ALL THE RULES . Along the corridor, the new bus stops (perhaps improved with respect to providing information on routes etc.) should be the norm all over the city, not just in the privileged NDMC areas. On heavily trafficked routes the number of stops for any location have to be increased. If we have to find additional space for bus stops, so be it. The bus stop spaces should be monitored against encrachment (or locate additional areas for petty vendors like water, pan etc.). What I am asking for is a COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF ROAD BASED BUS SYSTEM without any fancy stuff (these are why I called it a hard suggestion). So far I have left out one thing - money, money for the overhaul and maintaining the system. This is the subsidy the government  SHOULD GIVE TO THE URBAN AGGLOMERATION AS A WHOLE. The burden cannot be wished away (beyond PPP mode revenue from bus stops).

I know mine is a cry in the widlerness when the focus is on looking fancy. But, I feel that our focus should be on getting back the lost ridership, starting from the lower strata.

Raghuram Ekambaram





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